mirage
09-17 02:19 PM
I've been seeing all this cr.ap for 4 years now. My American dream turned out to be a nightmare...
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alien2006
07-21 07:28 AM
One of my friends who is in Canada for a few years now tells me that the Canadian companies do recognize US experience. Another friend recently finished his MBA from the US ( after he went through the whole MS, job at a top company, GC process where labor got rejected after 4 years nonsense). He moved to Canada with a job offer, so it is much easier for him. Just don't go there and think you will find something. Make sure you have a job offer and only then go there.
petepatel
09-17 11:28 AM
Audio is on :)
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prashanthg
08-19 03:33 PM
1. How is the visa spill-over from EB1 to EB2 being distributed, are there no chances of EB3 candidates receiving a portion of it?
2. What is the rationale for EB3 being unavailable (or moving at snail pace when available) when EB2 dates have been moved to 2006? (Please don't get me wrong, just asking questions)
Thoughts??
1. I don't see any chances of getting any spill overs in the next two years.
2. There are only 3000 visas available for EB3-I in any given year (7% of EB3 quota). EB3-I will get few more if and when EB3-ROW gets current.
2. What is the rationale for EB3 being unavailable (or moving at snail pace when available) when EB2 dates have been moved to 2006? (Please don't get me wrong, just asking questions)
Thoughts??
1. I don't see any chances of getting any spill overs in the next two years.
2. There are only 3000 visas available for EB3-I in any given year (7% of EB3 quota). EB3-I will get few more if and when EB3-ROW gets current.
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abhijitrajan
07-17 07:31 AM
Thanks for editing. signed.
Abhijit, you are correct about the quotation marks. Unfortunately I had to create a new petition since I couldn't modify the old one as it was already signed. I guess I messed up and overstated certain things in the old petition.
Sincere apologies. Please sign new petition.
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/loudobbs
Abhijit, you are correct about the quotation marks. Unfortunately I had to create a new petition since I couldn't modify the old one as it was already signed. I guess I messed up and overstated certain things in the old petition.
Sincere apologies. Please sign new petition.
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/loudobbs
kushaljn
09-17 11:42 AM
Lamar smith on now. Saying he also supports the amendment for 6020.
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Bradman
11-09 09:54 AM
I highly doubt that the White called Mr. Bradman abou this name check. white house has other things to worry about that then simply getting ones name check cleared. White has nothing to do with name checks. If it did, my mothers case would have been cleard a long time ago. She is stuck for the past 3 years. She is over 60. i contacted the white house last year. Not even a Thanks for writing form them.
So if it is true, then Bradman congrats, but if you are just pulling our leg, then not a good thing.
What you think and suggest is your problem. I know what all i had go through to be where I am today. I did a receive a call on either occasion from the Presidents office. As a matter of fact when I wrote to the FL and the Senators office then too I received calls.
Keep you subject very precise and on the top of envelop remember to mention "Immigration Assistance". Please use ordinary mail 41 cents stamp and wait and watch.
All the best !!!!
So if it is true, then Bradman congrats, but if you are just pulling our leg, then not a good thing.
What you think and suggest is your problem. I know what all i had go through to be where I am today. I did a receive a call on either occasion from the Presidents office. As a matter of fact when I wrote to the FL and the Senators office then too I received calls.
Keep you subject very precise and on the top of envelop remember to mention "Immigration Assistance". Please use ordinary mail 41 cents stamp and wait and watch.
All the best !!!!
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caliguy
09-18 02:08 PM
@ geesee
Do you know if they have a record of everytime we talk to the CSRs?
I have only been able to talk to an IO once, and I feel they definitely have more info than these CSRs who are sitting there like bots. To get to the IO, I basically had to tell them that I have not opened a SR so far (which was not true).
When I tried calling yesterday, I told the CSR, that my attorney opened a SR on 1st September and if she could kindly transfer my call to a IO. She said she will not be able to transfer my call, as I had already opened a SR. When I told her that I already got a response for the SR, so I now need to open another SR, she said she cannot as it asked me to wait for 60 days. I requested her a couple times to please transfer me to a IO, she said, Sorry, cannot do it as you have already opened a SR.
I am planning to call them next week again, will tell them I have not opened a SR yet. Atleast, I will then get to talk to a IO.....!!
Do you know if they have a record of everytime we talk to the CSRs?
I have only been able to talk to an IO once, and I feel they definitely have more info than these CSRs who are sitting there like bots. To get to the IO, I basically had to tell them that I have not opened a SR so far (which was not true).
When I tried calling yesterday, I told the CSR, that my attorney opened a SR on 1st September and if she could kindly transfer my call to a IO. She said she will not be able to transfer my call, as I had already opened a SR. When I told her that I already got a response for the SR, so I now need to open another SR, she said she cannot as it asked me to wait for 60 days. I requested her a couple times to please transfer me to a IO, she said, Sorry, cannot do it as you have already opened a SR.
I am planning to call them next week again, will tell them I have not opened a SR yet. Atleast, I will then get to talk to a IO.....!!
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ajju
03-13 01:18 PM
One step closer.
With last year crisscrossing, EB2 India most apps are cleared upto september 2004. We should not have too many in 2004 except substitution cases.
Hope it will step into 2005 in next 4 months....
Atleast 5 in my office and 5 in friend circle :-)
But I wish what you say is true that not many left in 2003.. and dates move to 2004 and then further...
With last year crisscrossing, EB2 India most apps are cleared upto september 2004. We should not have too many in 2004 except substitution cases.
Hope it will step into 2005 in next 4 months....
Atleast 5 in my office and 5 in friend circle :-)
But I wish what you say is true that not many left in 2003.. and dates move to 2004 and then further...
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raj2007
06-11 08:28 PM
Hi Gurus,
I need an advice from you.
The situation:
-- Involved in a collision few months back. As I had rear ended the vehicle, as per the investigation, it was found it was my fault(80% mine - 20% others)
-- Now after more than 18 months, I get a law suit for 3.25 million dollars(. This was served against ppl who were involved. Right now my I have my EAD and AP and maintaining H1 status.
So what are my options now?
1. Check with attorney and start defending..?
2. pack the bags and go back to my country ? If so, will there be any issues in coming back again, say after 3,4 years?
3. What about my GC?
Any help would be greatly appreciated and I guess it would be a biggest decision of my life ..
Thx,
PD is Nov 2006.
What's your insurance coverage? It seems you had rental car. Have you taken the rental coverage at that time?
Send me PM and I can ask my friend, who was invloved in big accident like you. Insurance company will fight for the last penny and after that you have to pay, if it is not covered.
I need an advice from you.
The situation:
-- Involved in a collision few months back. As I had rear ended the vehicle, as per the investigation, it was found it was my fault(80% mine - 20% others)
-- Now after more than 18 months, I get a law suit for 3.25 million dollars(. This was served against ppl who were involved. Right now my I have my EAD and AP and maintaining H1 status.
So what are my options now?
1. Check with attorney and start defending..?
2. pack the bags and go back to my country ? If so, will there be any issues in coming back again, say after 3,4 years?
3. What about my GC?
Any help would be greatly appreciated and I guess it would be a biggest decision of my life ..
Thx,
PD is Nov 2006.
What's your insurance coverage? It seems you had rental car. Have you taken the rental coverage at that time?
Send me PM and I can ask my friend, who was invloved in big accident like you. Insurance company will fight for the last penny and after that you have to pay, if it is not covered.
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desi3933
06-02 02:21 PM
Chanduv23,
Can someone use AC21 even if the person has not worked in the company but 180 days has passed?
Yes,
assuming I-140 is already approved and it is past 180 calendar days after I-485 filing date.
.
________________________
Not a legal advice.
Can someone use AC21 even if the person has not worked in the company but 180 days has passed?
Yes,
assuming I-140 is already approved and it is past 180 calendar days after I-485 filing date.
.
________________________
Not a legal advice.
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arsh007
02-01 11:48 AM
Looks like there is now an increasing awareness of how Desi Consulting companies are bringing in a bad name to the entire desi population in this country.
Found this email from Google H-1B Group: from
infoprovider_ 2 at yahoo dot com.
Hi,
I would like to inform you about the large scale fraud going in the
technology world today in USA. I know of many small-mid sized IT
consultancies in US, which are founded by Indians. They recruit people
(1) with degrees from various fields, most of the candidates recruited
don't ever have any experience in computers. They train them in some
tools (2) and change the resume totally (3), someone who has knowledge
relevant to the job takes the interview instead of the actual candidate
and they get placed. Ironically, even though these jobs advertisements
say that around 5 years of experience is required, usually someone with
not so high aptitude and limited trainig in that parituclar tool (2)
can manage to sustain in that position, this is very real, these jobs
can be done that way. They manage to get jobs in the biggest of US
companies (4).
This consultancy fraud is know to almost every Indian working in the
technology sector. The consultancies almost don't take any one other
than from India and surronding countires like Bangladesh, Srilanka. 99%
of those i have seen are from India and the remaining 1% from
Bangladesh, Srilanka etc.
How many are doing this?
I believe there would be atleast a few thousands of consultancies.
Wanna find them? SOme of them advertise in Indian content sites such as
sulekha.com. Look at the right hand side of the page
classifieds. sulekha.com
Who is loosing due to this.
If this jobs can be done by someone with no experience in that
technology, can't these be done by those americans who have a better
experience (say 2 years or even 1 year), these folks work sincerely and
go with correct resumes get X dollars where as the fraudsters get 3X -
5X dollars.
I don't say that every one from India are doing this. But a significant
many are doing this. I know around 30 people working in US in
technology sector. Over 20 are working this way. I can confidently say
hundreds of thousands are doing this today and each year at least 50000
(from student pool, dependents pool, directly coming to the
consultancies as H1b workers from India) are joining them. Also, I am
talking about the small to mid sized (1- 1000 people) consultancies not
the big Indian consultancies such as Infosys and TCS.
Solution:
A lot of things can be done. But the simple thing that's easy to
implement by the americans and thus not impede their productivity by
spending too much resources in verifying the authenticity is this
Let the INS provide the details of the H1b holders to the companies
when asked by the companies only (this is similar to letting others
e.g., housing provider, know about one's credit history). So, with the
applicants SSN the companies can see the basic information like when
the applicant has got his H1b approved and the resume submitted by the
applicant with his H1b application (usually not many applicants give a
very wrong resume to the INS while applying for the H1b). This
eliminates almost all the cases of fraudsters (since they can't come to
US today, one or two years ago and say that I have been working here
for 5 years). This is one simple solution, easy to implement.
There are many othere solutions
(1) Whom do they usually recruit
Thousands of students come from India every year to pursue Masters
degree. They come to pursue Master's in various fields, the fields in
which they have done their bachelor's back in India. Only about a
quarter of them manage to get jobs in the fields in which they have
done their Master's as direct employees of the companies. The remaining
join these consultancies as they can easily get jobs through the
consultancies.
Dependents, mostly those who come as spouses (coming as wives). They
might have done some bachelors degree or Masters back in India in some
field. Many of them not in computers. They don't have any experience
there. They can easily be placed by the consultancies.
SOme others pay these consultancies for sponsoring H1b visa. Typically
the consultancies take the fee required for teh application and the
lawyer fee (usually USD 2500-USD3000) . SOme of these cases are those
with experience in IT in India. But significant number of the remaining
are not experienced. Recently I have seen people who have been to other
countries for their studies like Australia and Europe coming through
the consultancies this way. Even most of these guys have no experience
in IT, most experience in no field.
(2) Which technologies they work in
I have seen that the technologies they work in are in which the pay
rates are high (because of lack of skillful people) like SAP,
DataWarehousing tools. They also work in other fields like Testing etc.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of jobs in these fields.
(3) How much is the resume changed
They change the resume totally. Every resume says the person has worked
in US for over 4 years, doesn't matter if it is someone who came for
masters to US an year or two years ago or someone who very recently
came as a wife to someone.
All most everyone's resumes have over 5 years experience where as in
reality almost everyone don't have that much experience. If someone has
that much experience they wouldn't go through these consultants who
take a big fraction of the pay they get from the clients.
Can't it be detected?
No, in most cases its hard (expensive) for the recruiters (the clients)
to find the authenticity of the resumes submitted. There is no proof
that these resumes are authentic. Just in case some references are
needed the consultancies give a dummy reference, and some phone number
(they can ask some contacts, their acquiantainces working in some
companies to take the call,if at all they feel that the client will
find out from the phone number which company does this phone number
belongs to, but most of the client companies don't go that far too, so
a guy's mobile number who is working in the consultancy itself can be
given as referencees contact number). It is hard to remember the voice
by the interviewer after a few days of the intrview and usually these
candidates join at least after a week after taking the interview (even
if the candidate joins in 3 days, its hard to remember the voice as the
interviewer usually interacts with many people (particularly they being
in team lead or managerial positions)
(4) I personally know people working in Microsoft, IBM, TEK systems,
Cingular, Amazon, Accenture, Citigroup etc. This says such people are
working in almost every technology company in USA
So then, how is an American, like me, who spent tens of thousands of
dollars to get thru 3 yrs. in a technical school that ended with a
Bachelor degree in Science with Computer Information Systems, with
honors, supposed to get a job in the IT community while these
fraudulent (most likely illegal alien Indians) take the positions away
from me? I worked my a$$ off studying hard, working hard, worked at
the school, even took an extra course study in computer hardware
configurations, and STILL, these IT companies DON'T want to even speak
to me because they OUTSOURCE from these FRAUDS! How FAIR is
that???!!!
Found this email from Google H-1B Group: from
infoprovider_ 2 at yahoo dot com.
Hi,
I would like to inform you about the large scale fraud going in the
technology world today in USA. I know of many small-mid sized IT
consultancies in US, which are founded by Indians. They recruit people
(1) with degrees from various fields, most of the candidates recruited
don't ever have any experience in computers. They train them in some
tools (2) and change the resume totally (3), someone who has knowledge
relevant to the job takes the interview instead of the actual candidate
and they get placed. Ironically, even though these jobs advertisements
say that around 5 years of experience is required, usually someone with
not so high aptitude and limited trainig in that parituclar tool (2)
can manage to sustain in that position, this is very real, these jobs
can be done that way. They manage to get jobs in the biggest of US
companies (4).
This consultancy fraud is know to almost every Indian working in the
technology sector. The consultancies almost don't take any one other
than from India and surronding countires like Bangladesh, Srilanka. 99%
of those i have seen are from India and the remaining 1% from
Bangladesh, Srilanka etc.
How many are doing this?
I believe there would be atleast a few thousands of consultancies.
Wanna find them? SOme of them advertise in Indian content sites such as
sulekha.com. Look at the right hand side of the page
classifieds. sulekha.com
Who is loosing due to this.
If this jobs can be done by someone with no experience in that
technology, can't these be done by those americans who have a better
experience (say 2 years or even 1 year), these folks work sincerely and
go with correct resumes get X dollars where as the fraudsters get 3X -
5X dollars.
I don't say that every one from India are doing this. But a significant
many are doing this. I know around 30 people working in US in
technology sector. Over 20 are working this way. I can confidently say
hundreds of thousands are doing this today and each year at least 50000
(from student pool, dependents pool, directly coming to the
consultancies as H1b workers from India) are joining them. Also, I am
talking about the small to mid sized (1- 1000 people) consultancies not
the big Indian consultancies such as Infosys and TCS.
Solution:
A lot of things can be done. But the simple thing that's easy to
implement by the americans and thus not impede their productivity by
spending too much resources in verifying the authenticity is this
Let the INS provide the details of the H1b holders to the companies
when asked by the companies only (this is similar to letting others
e.g., housing provider, know about one's credit history). So, with the
applicants SSN the companies can see the basic information like when
the applicant has got his H1b approved and the resume submitted by the
applicant with his H1b application (usually not many applicants give a
very wrong resume to the INS while applying for the H1b). This
eliminates almost all the cases of fraudsters (since they can't come to
US today, one or two years ago and say that I have been working here
for 5 years). This is one simple solution, easy to implement.
There are many othere solutions
(1) Whom do they usually recruit
Thousands of students come from India every year to pursue Masters
degree. They come to pursue Master's in various fields, the fields in
which they have done their bachelor's back in India. Only about a
quarter of them manage to get jobs in the fields in which they have
done their Master's as direct employees of the companies. The remaining
join these consultancies as they can easily get jobs through the
consultancies.
Dependents, mostly those who come as spouses (coming as wives). They
might have done some bachelors degree or Masters back in India in some
field. Many of them not in computers. They don't have any experience
there. They can easily be placed by the consultancies.
SOme others pay these consultancies for sponsoring H1b visa. Typically
the consultancies take the fee required for teh application and the
lawyer fee (usually USD 2500-USD3000) . SOme of these cases are those
with experience in IT in India. But significant number of the remaining
are not experienced. Recently I have seen people who have been to other
countries for their studies like Australia and Europe coming through
the consultancies this way. Even most of these guys have no experience
in IT, most experience in no field.
(2) Which technologies they work in
I have seen that the technologies they work in are in which the pay
rates are high (because of lack of skillful people) like SAP,
DataWarehousing tools. They also work in other fields like Testing etc.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of jobs in these fields.
(3) How much is the resume changed
They change the resume totally. Every resume says the person has worked
in US for over 4 years, doesn't matter if it is someone who came for
masters to US an year or two years ago or someone who very recently
came as a wife to someone.
All most everyone's resumes have over 5 years experience where as in
reality almost everyone don't have that much experience. If someone has
that much experience they wouldn't go through these consultants who
take a big fraction of the pay they get from the clients.
Can't it be detected?
No, in most cases its hard (expensive) for the recruiters (the clients)
to find the authenticity of the resumes submitted. There is no proof
that these resumes are authentic. Just in case some references are
needed the consultancies give a dummy reference, and some phone number
(they can ask some contacts, their acquiantainces working in some
companies to take the call,if at all they feel that the client will
find out from the phone number which company does this phone number
belongs to, but most of the client companies don't go that far too, so
a guy's mobile number who is working in the consultancy itself can be
given as referencees contact number). It is hard to remember the voice
by the interviewer after a few days of the intrview and usually these
candidates join at least after a week after taking the interview (even
if the candidate joins in 3 days, its hard to remember the voice as the
interviewer usually interacts with many people (particularly they being
in team lead or managerial positions)
(4) I personally know people working in Microsoft, IBM, TEK systems,
Cingular, Amazon, Accenture, Citigroup etc. This says such people are
working in almost every technology company in USA
So then, how is an American, like me, who spent tens of thousands of
dollars to get thru 3 yrs. in a technical school that ended with a
Bachelor degree in Science with Computer Information Systems, with
honors, supposed to get a job in the IT community while these
fraudulent (most likely illegal alien Indians) take the positions away
from me? I worked my a$$ off studying hard, working hard, worked at
the school, even took an extra course study in computer hardware
configurations, and STILL, these IT companies DON'T want to even speak
to me because they OUTSOURCE from these FRAUDS! How FAIR is
that???!!!
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krishmunn
04-18 06:24 PM
As I see it, the only persons benefited are the ones having the priority dates in ancient times. I think we really should not mind letting them have their GC's, being our seniors.
Yes, later year porters might end up having to wait. It's all in the game, fortunately or unfortunately. One thing is for sure, we as a whole, have an uphill battle
If it really comes to matter, I think it should be easy for an EB2 to port to EB3 if the dates are current for him in the different category. So if I were EB2 today, I wouldn't be so apprehensive :)
I have neither become apprehensive nor have got any ill feeling ... just showing where the problem is .
Yes, later year porters might end up having to wait. It's all in the game, fortunately or unfortunately. One thing is for sure, we as a whole, have an uphill battle
If it really comes to matter, I think it should be easy for an EB2 to port to EB3 if the dates are current for him in the different category. So if I were EB2 today, I wouldn't be so apprehensive :)
I have neither become apprehensive nor have got any ill feeling ... just showing where the problem is .
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msekhargc
05-23 04:00 PM
I like idea of doing both ( calls + signatures)
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Aah_GC
06-10 02:49 PM
I called about 4 representatives - do we have to call for the Congressman or just leave him / her the message? The receptionists are generally like - "Who are you?" - "Ok, will pass the message" kinda deals.
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sam2006
07-19 07:52 PM
Try to make the post Sticky
i think admin can do it
i think admin can do it
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pappu
04-28 10:09 AM
One more point:
Know when your GC and passport expires so that you can renew it. :)
Getting a GC does not mean you can ignore all your immigration issues.
Know when your GC and passport expires so that you can renew it. :)
Getting a GC does not mean you can ignore all your immigration issues.
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anandrajesh
02-01 12:26 PM
Please donot let this thread a self-flogging ritual...
We the H1Bs are the victims of the this system. We did not create this system. It is true that there are social costs associated with this system. Abolishing the system is not the solution. Reform and making the system just is the solution..That is all we are asking for....
Blaming the victim of an atrocity for the atrocity is sheer stupidity....
Remember for Every Google, there is a ENRON. So based on ENRON experience you dont generalize all American Corps are dishonest.
Same logic applies here i work for a Small "Desi" Company and they are very honest and pay me reasonably well. They dont break laws or find ways to circumvent it. So i dont like to hear all H1Bs Companies are Cheats.
We the H1Bs are the victims of the this system. We did not create this system. It is true that there are social costs associated with this system. Abolishing the system is not the solution. Reform and making the system just is the solution..That is all we are asking for....
Blaming the victim of an atrocity for the atrocity is sheer stupidity....
Remember for Every Google, there is a ENRON. So based on ENRON experience you dont generalize all American Corps are dishonest.
Same logic applies here i work for a Small "Desi" Company and they are very honest and pay me reasonably well. They dont break laws or find ways to circumvent it. So i dont like to hear all H1Bs Companies are Cheats.
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PlainSpeak
04-20 05:38 PM
'm glad you didn't mention 2006. :D
While i am like everyone else in the fact that i want my GC i am not a selfish/greedy person (Like some of the members here on IV) who wants their GC at the expense of someone else
EB3 dates 2 years behind EB2 dates sounds resonable and if that ratio is kept then it will be beneficial to everyone. Not the way it is now.
What i want to see happen is that EB3 move to Aug 2004 dates while EB2 is at Aug 2006 keeping a 2 year difference between them, and maintaining the samne ratio moving forward
That was my wish but i had no hope til now but with the recent comments about Very High Upgrades cases by CIS that wish could most probably come true ...
While i am like everyone else in the fact that i want my GC i am not a selfish/greedy person (Like some of the members here on IV) who wants their GC at the expense of someone else
EB3 dates 2 years behind EB2 dates sounds resonable and if that ratio is kept then it will be beneficial to everyone. Not the way it is now.
What i want to see happen is that EB3 move to Aug 2004 dates while EB2 is at Aug 2006 keeping a 2 year difference between them, and maintaining the samne ratio moving forward
That was my wish but i had no hope til now but with the recent comments about Very High Upgrades cases by CIS that wish could most probably come true ...
MetteBB
06-16 09:59 AM
eh? :huh:
gccovet
05-23 02:34 PM
When you call the law makers and tell them you support XYZ bill.. my question is what do you get out of it!
When the lawmaker realizes that he is getting 10000 calls from LEGAL aliens,
>who are not from his constituency,
>who can’t vote and
>who can’t contribute to his election campaign…
what is the motivation for the law maker to support the bill…
So to avoid sounding stupid and foolish and desperate when you call… a more logical approach would be to :
a) Generate a public petition form on IV website and have all the members’ login and sign the forms digitally…
b) Then have IV reps.. fax them and send them to lobby groups ….
c) Lawmakers will listen to one talking head…and not worry abt 1000 calls that borders on ..”saar …support the bill saar”..
How many of you have actually talked to the lawmakers? Its always the assistant!
But instead .. someone says we have a signed petition of 25000 members effected by immigration mess …. And it’s a hi tech workers lobby group ..every lawmaker will talk to you and not the assistant!
Conclusion: calling the lawmakers haphazardly is actually hurting IV cause..to a certain extent!
:cool:
Calling Law makers helps (All the calls are conveyed - in brief) the number matters.
By the way,
I do agree on getting digital signatures as well.
I will be there to support you whenever you take a lead and start the signature campaign though.
We can do both (call + signs).
GCCovet.
When the lawmaker realizes that he is getting 10000 calls from LEGAL aliens,
>who are not from his constituency,
>who can’t vote and
>who can’t contribute to his election campaign…
what is the motivation for the law maker to support the bill…
So to avoid sounding stupid and foolish and desperate when you call… a more logical approach would be to :
a) Generate a public petition form on IV website and have all the members’ login and sign the forms digitally…
b) Then have IV reps.. fax them and send them to lobby groups ….
c) Lawmakers will listen to one talking head…and not worry abt 1000 calls that borders on ..”saar …support the bill saar”..
How many of you have actually talked to the lawmakers? Its always the assistant!
But instead .. someone says we have a signed petition of 25000 members effected by immigration mess …. And it’s a hi tech workers lobby group ..every lawmaker will talk to you and not the assistant!
Conclusion: calling the lawmakers haphazardly is actually hurting IV cause..to a certain extent!
:cool:
Calling Law makers helps (All the calls are conveyed - in brief) the number matters.
By the way,
I do agree on getting digital signatures as well.
I will be there to support you whenever you take a lead and start the signature campaign though.
We can do both (call + signs).
GCCovet.
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